# A group

A group of young men decides to raise ksh 480,000 to start a business. Before the actual payment was made, four members pulled out, and each of the remaining had to pay an additional ksh 20,000. Determine the original number of members.

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**Math student**

I see that you used a different method to solve the equation. You factored out the common factor of 20000 and then used the quadratic formula to find the roots. That’s a valid approach.👏

However, I noticed that you made a mistake in the last step. You wrote n=n 1=12, but n 1=2+10=12 is not a solution of the equation. If you plug in n=12 into the equation, you get:

120 = 12

120 = 144 - 60

120 ≠ 84

So n=12 is an extraneous root that does not satisfy the original equation. The only solution that works is n=n 2=2-10=-8. But since n must be a positive integer, we reject this solution as well. Therefore, there is no solution to the equation using your method.

However, I noticed that you made a mistake in the last step. You wrote n=n 1=12, but n 1=2+10=12 is not a solution of the equation. If you plug in n=12 into the equation, you get:

120 = 12

^{2}- 5*12120 = 144 - 60

120 ≠ 84

So n=12 is an extraneous root that does not satisfy the original equation. The only solution that works is n=n 2=2-10=-8. But since n must be a positive integer, we reject this solution as well. Therefore, there is no solution to the equation using your method.

**Math student**

my solution is:

Let x be the original number of members. Then the original amount each member had to pay is 480,000/x. When four members pulled out, the remaining members had to pay 480,000/(x-4). The difference between these two amounts is 20,000. So we can write the equation:

480,000/x - 480,000/(x-4) = 20,000

To solve this equation, we need to multiply both sides by x(x-4) and simplify:

480,000(x-4) - 480,000x = 20,000x(x-4)

Expanding and collecting like terms, we get:

-1,920,000 = -16,000x

Dividing both sides by -16,000, we get:

120 = x

Adding 25 to both sides and completing the square, we get:

145 = (x-2.5)

Taking the square root of both sides, we get:

x-2.5 = ±√145

Adding 2.5 to both sides, we get:

x = 2.5 ±√145

Since x must be a positive integer, we reject the negative root and get:

x = 2.5 +√145

Rounding to the nearest whole number, we get:

x = 14

Therefore, the original number of members was 14

Let x be the original number of members. Then the original amount each member had to pay is 480,000/x. When four members pulled out, the remaining members had to pay 480,000/(x-4). The difference between these two amounts is 20,000. So we can write the equation:

480,000/x - 480,000/(x-4) = 20,000

To solve this equation, we need to multiply both sides by x(x-4) and simplify:

480,000(x-4) - 480,000x = 20,000x(x-4)

Expanding and collecting like terms, we get:

-1,920,000 = -16,000x

^{2}+ 80,000xDividing both sides by -16,000, we get:

120 = x

^{2}- 5xAdding 25 to both sides and completing the square, we get:

145 = (x-2.5)

^{2}Taking the square root of both sides, we get:

x-2.5 = ±√145

Adding 2.5 to both sides, we get:

x = 2.5 ±√145

Since x must be a positive integer, we reject the negative root and get:

x = 2.5 +√145

Rounding to the nearest whole number, we get:

x = 14

Therefore, the original number of members was 14

**Kk**

48000/(x-4) -480000/x=20000

48000x-48000(x-4)=20000x(x-4)

Divide across with 20000

24x-24(x-4)=x(x-4)

X

X

X(x+8)-12(x+8)=0

(X-12)(x+8)=0

Either x-12=0

48000x-48000(x-4)=20000x(x-4)

Divide across with 20000

24x-24(x-4)=x(x-4)

X

^{2}-4x+96=0X

^{2}+8x-12x+96=0X(x+8)-12(x+8)=0

(X-12)(x+8)=0

Either x-12=0

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